Saint Louis Radio Control Flying Association GLSMA Minutes

2024 update

Lawrence Leuchtmann — Wed, 10 Jan 2024 16:38:08 GMT

This email was sent by GSLMA President David Whitney regarding 2024 flying at Buder Park...

Greetings Buder Park Flyers.

The question has been asked about 2024 flying until the County process is up and running;

Answer from President Fred Cronenwett is:

"The county wont have the permit process up and running until feb or march 2024. We asked a very direct question regarding jan 1. The county's answer was to continue using the flying site and they post signage at the site when they are ready."

Personally, I would suggest you carry your current AMA and FAA cards with you when flying.

As more information becomes available I will let you now.

Thanks,

David Whitney

GSLMA Treasurer

GSLMA Positions

Marshall Henley — Wed, 14 Dec 2016 17:37:00 GMT

This e-mail was sent out by GLSMA President

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Dear flyers,

As you are hopefully aware, our lease agreement to use the land at Buder Park for model aviation is set to expire at the end of this year. While the Parks Department could draw considerable income from other uses of this area (soccer fields being the obvious), they have chosen to renew our lease for another 5 year period. The letter confirming this can be seen on our website, www.gslma.com.

The renewal of this agreement is important as it will allow us to make the improvements our group has been planning on and saving money for. Many have asked what their $30 each year goes to. The improvements planned for 2017 include resurfacing the large control line square, sealing all other asphalt surfaces, and putting a new roof on the RC pavilion. A longer term improvement being looked into would be bringing electric to the RC area.

This brings me to the point of this email. None of these things mentioned above get done without the volunteer help from GSLMA. We currently have 2 positions vacant on the GSLMA Board including Historian and as of the end of the year Treasurer. We sent out notice about elections being held at the December meeting and NO ONE SHOWED UP to run for these vacant positions. Unfortunately, many flyers are quick to complain about GSLMA and what goes on at Buder Park but rarely does anyone new step up to help. The same 15 to 20 people have been doing all the work for the past 5+ years to ensure that we keep this world class flying facility.

We cannot continue to ask the same people to do all the work. At this point I will be taking on the responsibilities of Treasurer until one is found. I can assure you that my time is limited and this will not go on for more than a brief period until one is found. Lance Thompson stayed on as Treasurer a full year beyond the time when he was ready to retire the position and I will not do the same. The other board members also will not be able to take on another role either.

If you want the current board members to continue their service, I would suggest that you either come forward to volunteer or help convince your fellow flyers to step up.

I can assure you that without the help from GSLMA, this flying site will be put in jeopardy of continuing.

Please email me personally at _____ to indicate you are interested in running for these positions.

Thanks,

Tony Vitiello
GSLMA Chairman

2016 June (FPV signup, no car RC sign, possible RC truck track, Airshow)

Marshall Henley — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 00:06:00 GMT

GSLMA Meeting – Tuesday, June 2nd, 2016

Location: Grand Glaize Library Branch

Notes by: Jeffrey C. Young

Meeting called to order: 7:06pm

Roll Call.

May minutes read. Motion, second, and passed.

Treasures Report:

BB: $30,786.15

Total Deposits: $476.00

Debit – AMA: $90.00

Debit – Airshow Reservation: $1290.00

Debit – Porta Potty #876: $80.00

Debit – AMA additional insurance: $250.00

Total Debits: $1710.00

EB: $29,552.15

Motion, second, and passed.

Buder Park Permits:

Permits 2016 05/01/2016 to 05/31/2016: 15

Permits 2016 YTD: 183

Old Business:

FPV sign up – (4) total. Tony V. got a call from Tom O. about a complaint on the signs. Wanted to

know if RC was expanding RC area. Tom O. explained that it is part of the flying area. Flyers have the

first right to area usage.

Remove “no RC car sign” from control line area? Consensus is to leave sign up and as is. Discuss at a

later date and revisit topic.

Additional insurance required by SLCPD – Lance T. sent check AMA – costs $250.00.
No information on by-law changes at this time.
Porta potty has been moved.
Safety fence in the control line are is still broken. Tony V. will ask about the repair at meeting.
Tom O. noticed boundary posts may be missing. Tony V. will be checking into.

New Business:

Look at opening an RC car track at Buder. Tony will talk with SLCPD and the Dirt Burners to see what

they think.

Buder Air Show. Use charity, different charity, or no charity. Charity seemed to complicate things.

Supporting charity did not provide any additional coverage or spectators. Only benefit was

additional parking income.

Meeting closed 8:15pm

2016 May (Bylaw proposal change update, SLCPD update, Field rules need posted, June 11 event, move Buder event)

Marshall Henley — Wed, 04 May 2016 00:17:00 GMT

Location: Grand Glaize Library Branch

Notes by: Jeffrey C. Young

Meeting called to order: 7:17pm

Roll Call.

April minutes read. Motion, second, and passed.

Treasures Report:

BB: $30,418.54

Total Deposits: $762.00

Debit – Porta Potty #874: $80.00

Debit – Room Reservations supplies: $60.00

Debit – CL Clean-up: $254.39

Total Debits: $394.39

EB: $30,786.15

Motion, second, and passed.

Buder Park Permits:

Permits 2016 04/01/2016 to 04/30/2016: 25

Permits 2016 YTD: 168

Old Business:

Field reservations for Buder Air Show 2-16, total $1290.00 after many emails and discussions with

SLCPD.

Tony V. still working on insurance renewal for Buder, needs to be raised to 2.8M. Insurance company

and SLCPD are playing phone tag to discuss increased policy.

FPV signs – no news.
Meeting with SLCPD – no news.
Bylaw proposal change – no news. Committee to work out all details and present at GSLMA

meeting.

New Business:

Field rules need to be posted along with some other items. Make list of other items that need to be

done. Will send out and possibly schedule work day at Buder.

June 11th Wings Over St. Louis by Aero Pilots.
Move Buder Air Show – may be hard due to CL event scheduled that weekend. Bob A will verify

dates and get back with Tony V.

Meeting closed 8:15pm

2016 Apr

Marshall Henley — Tue, 05 Apr 2016 00:10:00 GMT

GSLMA Meeting – Wednesday, April 4th, 2016

Location: Grand Glaize Library Branch

Notes by: Jeffrey C. Young

Meeting called to order: 7:10pm

Roll Call.

March minutes read. Motion, second, and passed.

Treasures Report:

BB: $29,358.12

Total Deposits: $1186.00

Debit – Porta Potty #871: $80.00

Debit – Office supplies: $31.48

Debit – Info Box: $14.10

Total Debits: $125.58

EB: $30,418.54

Motion, second, and passed.

Buder Park Permits:

Permits 2016 03/01/2016 to 03/31/2016: 37

Permits 2016 YTD: 143

Old Business:

Park meeting has not been scheduled at this time. Tony will let everyone know when the meeting

will be held. Meeting to discuss Buder improvements. Will also discuss lease extension.

Field reservations for Buder Air Show - price increase from last year for field rental approx. $2000.00

- $2300.00 ($150.00 event fee per day). Discussed in great detail the pros and cons of renting field.

Motion on floor to rent soccer fields for both days by Jon E. for Buder Air Show, second, passed, one

opposed. Mention to delay until Buder Flyers have ability to vote.

FPV area – need signs to keep park goers from coming into FPV area when utilized. Tony V. will talk

with SLCPD about getting signs made and consult Phil B. on verbiage.

CL speed circle is now cleaned by John Moll with approval from SLCPD. John M. will report

volunteer hours on flood clean up. Water Quik was hired to pressure wash speed circle by John M.

Cleanup needed for upcoming contest. Took 4000 gallons of water to clean speed circle. Cost

$254.50. Motion to reimburse Lafayette Escadrille, second, all in favor, none opposed. John M. will

document the clean up before and after. He will also document the speed contest.

New Business:

Tony V. has been talking with Buder Flyers about GSLMA permit fee and having a voice. Most flyers

understand fee and what it is used for. Questions about what GSLMA is and what it does. Discuss

having Buder Flyers have a voice. This will require bylaw change in order to make this change.

Previous proposal to have Buder Flyers form an AMA Charter club and become GSLMA member and

utilize current bylaw in place. Concern with having new voting model stack votes to impose illogical

polices. No real down side to the current system, but no real down side to allowing all permit

holders to vote. Form a committee to look at getting bylaw change, individual voting rights, and

electronic voting.

Meeting closed 8:56pm

2016 Mar

Marshall Henley — Wed, 02 Mar 2016 01:01:00 GMT

GSLMA Meeting – Wednesday, March 1st, 2016

Location: Grand Glaize Library Branch

Notes by: Jeffrey C. Young

Meeting called to order: 7:01pm

Roll Call.

February minutes read. Motion, second, and passed.

Treasures Report:

BB: $28,542.12

Total Deposits: $896.00

Debit – Porta Potty #870: $80.00

Total Debits: $80.00

EB: $29,358.12

Motion, second, and passed.

Buder Park Permits:

Permits 2016 02/01/2016 to 02/31/2016: 27

Permits 2016 YTD: 106

Old Business:

FPV signage to be completed. CL area signage to be completed.
Meeting with Jim G. at Buder to look at conditions at Buder and what improvements we could make. Also look at grill location. Tony will inform on date and time.
Buder field rental for Air Show – will fill out form and get final price.

New Business:

 FPV area at Buder is utilized and planning upcoming events.

 Work on master plan for Buder improvements.

 Chief Nesbit will enforce permit as needed.

 GSLMA Meeting date April 7th, May 3rd, and June 2nd.

 See if it possible to get dirt removed from CL speed cage for speed contest. 41K sq feet. Prices from $700.00 to $4000.00. Will see if SLCPD can clean, but delayed due to the shear amount of work from flooding. Will look into having GSLMA members perform work and get equipment.

Meeting closed 8:24pm

2016 Feb

Marshall Henley — Fri, 05 Feb 2016 01:04:00 GMT

GSLMA Meeting – Wednesday, February 4th, 2016

Location: Grand Glaize Library Branch

Notes by: Jeffrey C. Young

Meeting called to order: 7:04pm

Roll Call.

January minutes read. Motion, second, and passed.

Treasures Report:

BB: $27,726.72

Total Deposits: $915.00

Debit – Porta Potty #869: $80.00

Debit – Stamps: $19.60

Total Debits: $99.60

EB: $28,542.12

Motion, second, and passed.

Buder Park Permits:

Permits 2016 01/01/2016 to 01/31/2016: 26

Permits 2016 YTD: 79

Old Business:

Park reservations: Lafayette Esquadrill – February 27-28 April 15-17 May 22 September 16-18

October 15-16 November 19-20, Whirlybirds - June 4-5, Buder Air Show – September 17-18, Aero

Pilots May 21.

Motion to reserve Buder Park Ball Fields for Buder Air Show for approx. $1200.00. Second, passed,

one opposed.

SLCPD Meeting – donation must be made - through work, improvements, field rental, or cash

donation, etc.

Cost to maintain upper and lower Buder approx. $70,000.00 per year.

New Business:

 FPV Area – talked to SLCPD – permanent course may be utilized if approved by SLCPD. Signage for

FPV area will be sent to SLCPD for approval, location, and installation.

 FPV safety rules reviewed and will be posted when complete.

 CL area can be used for RC as well, if not being used for CL.

 CL area did receive some minor damage from flood and will need to be repaired by SLCPD. GSLMA

will pay for any material costs, if required.

 Lease with SLCPD – to be renewed in next few months if possible. Keys to getting renewed: come

up with plan for improvements for Buder. Lease would be for 5 years. SLCPD likes having GSLMA.

SLCPD wants to know how GSLMA will improve Buder and this will help with lease approval.

 BBQ Grill – if we buy they will install – need to decide location. Decide at next meeting with SLCPD.

 Park Permits – meeting with SLCPD – rule in 1985, ordinance number 616-180 valid per SLCPD – per

this ordinance, permit is required per SLCPD. SLCPD will enforce. GSLMA to self-patrol, if not SLC

rangers will be utilized.

 Discussed FAA registration.

 Flood – still missing 3 to 4 benches. Still allot covered with mud. Clean-up still continuing.

Meeting closed 8:38pm

Jan 2016

Marshall Henley — Wed, 06 Jan 2016 01:22:00 GMT

GSLMA Meeting – Wednesday, January 5th, 2016

Location: Grand Glaize Library Branch

Notes by: Jeffrey C. Young

Meeting called to order: 7:22pm

Roll Call.

December minutes read. Motion, second, and passed.

Treasures Report:

BB: $26,404.54

Total Deposits: $1438.00

Debit – Porta Potty #867: $80.00

Debit – Office Supplies #868: $35.82

Total Debits: $115.82

EB: $27,726.72

Motion, second, and passed.

Buder Park Permits:

Permits 2015 12/1/2015 to 12/31/2015: 42

Permits 2015 YTD: 234

Permits 2016 YTD: 53

Old Business:

Tony called Jim Gerkin to discuss Buder after flood – if SLCPD is going to do cleanup. Park is still

closed even though the water has receded. Tony wants to schedule a meeting with SLCPD for

GSLMA’s annual meeting.

Guest – Bob Underwood. Some GSLMA history GSLMA was one of the highest contributors to a

state college fund (approx. $2000 to $3000). In addition, in the early years, Buder was utilized for

most of the year unlike other SLC Parks (which SLCPD liked). One of the early requirements before

the land was donated that a group be formed to oversee park. This group would be made up of

others clubs with the premise that many voices (club members) with one voice (club) and one vote

(each club) to make running Buder easier.

Lance will stay on the rest of the year as treasurer.
Bulletin board needs to be made – Jeff to talk with Dennis. 48” tall x 36” wide.
Let flyers know when Buder is back open – Tony will let them know.

New Business:

 Field clean up.

 Reserve fields for Air Show.

Meeting closed 8:32pm